KK: BLM Marxism

KK OP: More things that make you go “Hmmmm….” I went to the Black Lives Matter website to verify this twitter post and yes, it’s true. The donation link took me to Act Blue where it says, “Powering Democratic candidates, committees, parties,organizations, and c4s around the country.”

(I’ve substituted a different link to the same information of where the money goes to)

https://thealterofdeceit.net/2020/06/10/where-does-the-money-donated-to-blm-really-ends-up-the-bait-and-switch/

Roy: The creator of BLM admits she’s a marxist.

OP @Roy: Very interesting. Listening. Grabbed a couple of quotes from it,
“Marxism has a body count that far surpasses Nazism”.
It stands for anti-property rights, anti self ownership, anti-voluntary exchange.”

So if we put all these pieces together, it sounds like the Democrats want to see America become like China. I highly doubt anyone I know wants the US or Canada to become like China. Things look really bad there right now. Protesters and the major democratic leaders there have been arrested and many will end up in prison.

me @OP: Luckily, America has a champion fighting for the American peoples’ freedom, health, liberty, and the ability to pursue happiness without harming others – President Trump!

Trump 2020!

Pray for Trump and envision him enveloped by spiritual white light of protection and guidance.

me @Roy: Thanks for the enlightening interview by the co-founder.

Here’s the BLM Manifesto:

We demand an end to the war against Black people. Since this country’s inception there have been named and unnamed wars on our communities. We demand an end to the criminalization, incarceration, and killing of our people. This includes:

1 An immediate end to the criminalization and dehumanization of Black youth across all areas of society including, but not limited to; our nation’s justice and education systems, social service agencies, and media and pop culture. This includes an end to zero-tolerance school policies and arrests of students, the removal of police from schools, and the reallocation of funds from police and punitive school discipline practices to restorative services.

2 An end to capital punishment.

3 An end to money bail, mandatory fines, fees, court surcharges and “defendant funded” court proceedings.

4 An end to the use of past criminal history to determine eligibility for housing, education, licenses, voting, loans, employment, and other services and needs.

5 An end to the war on Black immigrants including the repeal of the 1996 crime and immigration bills, an end to all deportations, immigrant detention, and Immigration and Custom Enforcement (ICE) raids, and mandated legal representation in immigration court.

6 An end to the war on Black trans, queer and gender nonconforming people including their addition to anti-discrimination civil rights protections to ensure they have full access to employment, health, housing and education.

7 An end to the mass surveillance of Black communities, and the end to the use of technologies that criminalize and target our communities (including IMSI catchers, drones, body cameras, and predictive policing software).

8 The demilitarization of law enforcement, including law enforcement in schools and on college campuses.

9 An immediate end to the privatization of police, prisons, jails, probation, parole, food, phone and all other criminal justice related services.

10 Until we achieve a world where cages are no longer used against our people we demand an immediate change in conditions and an end to all jails, detention centers, youth facilities and prisons as we know them. This includes the end of solitary confinement, the end of shackling of pregnant people, access to quality healthcare, and effective measures to address the needs of our youth, queer, gender nonconforming and trans families.

http://archive.is/dGyqs

Roy: There are no people in existence that are black, white, red or yellow. Best we all clean up our language and stop calling one another by a color that in truth does not exist!

OP @Roy: Yup. The BLM movement has brought far much too attention to racial differences and sexual differences at a time when people need to stand united to protect basic human freedoms, imho.

me @Roy: Googling Marxism and violence, a bunch of links pop up. Here’s a 2018 article from Dr. Samuel Gregg, Research Director at the Acton Institute.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2018/05/04/remembering-karl-marx-prophet-of-violence-and-terror/

Tom: Only those privileged enough to not have to face acute racial discrimination can ignore the real problem of racism and be like the problem is race-conscious “language” and the “calling of attention to racial differences”. People are dying because of racism, but for some folks the mention of racism is the issue. Smh.

Marxism is not anti voluntary exchange or anti property ownership. Marx did not disapprove personal possession, he disapproved private ownership of the means of production because it led to exploitation.

OP, I would recommend going to the source and reading the Communist Manifesto to understand Marixst thought. Capitalism has a far greater head count than Marxism, Nazism and all isms put together. China is not an example of communism, China is totalitarian capitalism that advertises itself as communist.

Also, I don’t see anything necessarily bad in that BLM manifesto? One may disagree with the finer points but to understand the perspective of that manifesto, one only needs to do legit study American history, the Jim Crow era and the history of policing and the criminal justice system … stuff that isn’t taught in school.

Roy: And neither is the history of political domination using race as a means of control. No one can own property without an existing paper fictional reality with titles and land grants being imposed as a structure of profit with interloping of government saying it’s the norm.

Collectivism and centralized control through capitalism are the problems. By capitalism I mean the need for a socially sanctioned government system to print fiat money and offer it as a solution. The lie is in the word cap it all. Every form of government and structured monetary control fit into this and there is not a form which is not capitalistic. They all use capital. All of them. Fascism, socialism, communism, Nazism and democratic republics are all capitalistic.

The short sighted perspective is not to look at slavery in it’s true context. A comprehensive view of slavery would begin investigating what slavery was occuring in Babylon, Sumeria, Egypt, Ethiopia, Europe, Australia and America and how historically human beings and nature have been commodified and used as a resource to be exploited. America is totalitarian capitalism disguised as a democratic republic.

BLM is a psychological operation and a trojan horse repressing sovereignty in favor of a collectivist culture of Marxist/Lenninist/totalitarian control.

Tom @Roy: You’ve touched on some valid points about capitalism but you also need to go to the source text to understand what communism is all about. It is absolutely not capitalism, in fact it is the very antithesis.

Nowadays people watch youtube videos and think they have become experts on communism. No, you have to be more sincere than that in your study. Racism is a byproduct and tool of capitalism. You cannot have a serious plan to dismantle racism without a plan to dismantle capitalism. That’s where Marxist thought comes into the picture.

OP: I just have to chime in and say I don’t know why it’s trendy to discount YouTube videos these days. Up until recent censorship, it has been a platform for the people and every video can be found there. I find these statements to be a form of “Mass Media Supremacy”, a new term I’ve coined.

Roy: And neither is the history of political domination using race as a means of control. No one can own property without an existing paper fictional reality with titles and land grants being imposed as a structure of profit with interloping of government saying it’s the norm.

Collectivism and centralized control through capitalism are the problems. By capitalism I mean the need for a socially sanctioned government system to print fiat money and offer it as a solution. The lie is in the word cap it all. Every form of government and structured monetary control fit into this and there is not a form which is not capitalistic. They all use capital. All of them. Fascism, socialism, communism, Nazism and democratic republics are all capitalistic.

The short sighted perspective is not to look at slavery in it’s true context. A comprehensive view of slavery would begin investigating what slavery was occuring in Babylon, Sumeria, Egypt, Ethiopia, Europe, Australia and America and how historically human beings and nature have been commodified and used as a resource to be exploited. America is totalitarian capitalism disguised as a democratic republic.

BLM is a psychological operation and a trojan horse repressing sovereignty in favor of a collectivist culture of Marxist/Lenninist/totalitarian control.

Tom: Youtube videos aren’t the problem. Basing opinions on second hand information is the problem. Some people make the same mistake when consuming information through other mediums – could be an article, could be a conversation with a friend.

Point is, go to the source, and actually know what you’re talking about.

Roy @Tom: Does communism use money? Yes. Do they have a monetary system based on capital? Yes. Do they have a system of central banking? Yes. Is their currency based in fiat? Yes.

Communism is a form of capitalism. Capitalism is the monetary system and communism is the political system!

Race is human. Racism is endemic to a global system of control which uses natural and human resources and money as a systemic form of slavery. We are born into it and we attempt to protect it via the propaganda we are grown into through state education.

It’s splitting you are participating in thinking capitalism good communism bad when communism has a use of capital. I have a plan to dismantle capitalism. If you really want to research it then read Michael Tellinger‘s book Ubuntu Contributionism which outlines in the first half of the book the history of money.

http://www.onesmalltown.org

Roy @Tom: I’ve already dismantled racism. It is based on the false language we have been taught to call people. It is derived from the obfuscation of language from Babylon which subverted the Phoenician principle that reality is derived through phonics and the naming of things speaking them into reality with our mouths.

When you call people black, white, red or yellow you are speaking a lie. There are no people in existence that are black, white, red or yellow so why are people calling one another colors of skin that they are not? Because people have been culturally gaslighted with false language designed to divide people based in false skin tones.

The same goes for ANY term which is derived from this delusion. “People of color,” “white body privilege,” “black body trauma,” black lives matter” and on and on. To utter from your mouth about people being black, white, red or yellow exposes a perception deficit disorder as you are speaking about colors of skin where none of those colors even exist. Tell me, what color does the term people of color include or exclude? You can’t answer it because its a part of racial gaslighting and points directly to the systemic racism that is inherent in the weasel words we have been trained to speak!

me @Roy @Tom: I am enjoying your dialogue and would like to make a request.

Please use Shift-Enter to make paragraph marks so it makes it easier to read.

Pretty please?

It’s a new habit, but well worth it for the reader.

OP @me: great tip!

OP @Roy: brilliant. I do feel that this attention to racial differences is causing division when what we need most now is Unity.

Roy @OP: People defend their beliefs when I suggest this by calling me a white racist priviliged patriarchal male thinking they are insulting me when I’m simply sharing my truth as I see it after studying intergenerational trauma.

It’s really pretty simple if you got some color crayons or if you’ve ever bought black or white paint!

George: BLM is not a Marxist organization. OP you are being being played by bad propaganda. talk to a BLM activist and talk to a Marxist. There is a obvious difference.

Go get some Black Friends and learn something outside the internet. . You are politically confused.and that is an extension of lazy thinking before the uprising started. Comments like these play a bad role when it comes to understanding what is going on. You are picking the wrong side here without knowing. You are probably losing the benefit of the doubt with a lot of people you know.

Powerful institutions like the police and political establishment are being spared because making sense of social movements fighting for social justice is not something your are good at. Cold war is over stop acting like an old person showing off your baggage.!

OP @George: Nice to hear from you, G. If BLM is not a Marxist organization then how do you explain the video above in which the founder admits they are trained Marxists?

And how do you explain the donations for BLM going to Act Blue which gives them to the Democratic Party? You can verify that by going to www.blacklivesmatter.com

George @OP: Go listen to speeches in demos., They are some Marxists and socialists in all social movements. Are you familiar with Socialist alternative or the Democratic socialist of America?

There is not direct organizational link. The political conversation and expression at the Vic demo had little political level. The speaker were new to politics.

This clip is off.

What is wrong with Marxism. We are all Marxist in understanding Capitalism as it is. This is bullshit cold war propaganda that he learned from establishment thinking.

Roy @George: One of the founders of BLM admit they are Marxist and you fail to acknowledge this instead redirecting the conversation to other videos. Did you watch the video?

me @George: I’m worried that Marxism equates to violence. What are your thoughts on this 2018 article?

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2018/05/04/remembering-karl-marx-prophet-of-violence-and-terror/

Roy: It does equate to violence. One thing that is used repeatedly is a collectivist mentality throughout history to dismantle the sovereignty.

If the government is corrupt, the police are corrupt, the politics are there to divide and the Marxist are there as a diversion then the US corporation will be divided from within.

If people believe they can use terrorism as a solution to dealing with systemic racism then those protestors looting and doing harm to their own communities are the very definition of terrorism.

Adding to the rage only fans the flames of division and leads the way to a totalitarian system of control like what is currently being passed off as capitalistic order in China.

Albert: I read their list of demands, and, on the face of it, they ARE quite justified and reasonable. And the intergenerational trauma that the parents of many of the BLM movement likely have passed on to their children, who, for the most part DO NOT experience anything in terms of systemic racism their parents and grand parents did….is real, and is still in need of being healed.

The problem is that they tragically believe that the Demoncratic Party is going to look after their welfare…they sadly don’t even know much of their own history and how it has always been the Demoncratic Party that has kept them, first in physical bondage, and now, trying to keep them in mental bondage as well, with this thinking..or lack thereof.

I think it’s called “Stockholm Syndrome” where the traumatized start to have feelings of compassion and trust of their captors, mistakingly thinking that they are the closest friends they have, and their only hope.

The Demoncratic Party will Cease to exist in it’s current form as soon as the critical mass of intentionally welfare addicted minorities wake the fuck up, and take back responsibility for their lives…which IS happening..it’s called #Blexit 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gSprhWKm-c

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